Monthly Archives: January 2009

Musings on…..Sanctification: Quotable Quotes


There is no justification without sanctification, no forgiveness with our renewal of life, no real faith from which the fruits of new obedience do not grow”

~ Martin Luther


A rigorous doctrine of imputation is not only limiting but ends up doing a disservice to the nature of grace and justification. It makes the transactions of the gospel basically juridical. In the Roman view, justification and sanctification are a seamless fabric. It is more than a question of God simply seeing us through a legal scrim of Christ’s righteousness. Righteousness actually begins to transform us.

~Thomas Howard


Our sanctification does not depend upon changing our works, but in doing that for God’s sake which we commonly do for our own. The time of business does not with me differ from the time of prayer.
~Brother Lawrence
Tell me not of your justification, unless you have also some marks of sanctification. Boast not of Christ’s work for you, unless you can show us the Spirit’s work in you.
~J.C. Ryle
God loves you just the way you are, but he refuses to leave you that way.
~Max Lucado
The nature of Christ’s salvation is woefully misrepresented by the present-day evangelist. He announces a Savior from hell rather than a Savior from sin. And that is why so many are fatally deceived, for there are multitudes who wish to escape the Lake of Fire who have no desire to be delivered from their carnality and worldliness.
~A.W. Pink
In efficacious grace we are not merely passive, nor yet does God do some and we do the rest. But God does all, and we do all. God produces all, we act all. For that is what produces, viz. our own acts. God is the only proper author and fountain; we only are the proper actors. We are in different respects, wholly passive and wholly active.
~Jonathan Edwards
It is terrible to find how little progress one’s philosophy and charity have made when they are brought to the test of domestic life.
~C.S. Lewis
Tell me not of your justification, unless you have also marks of sanctification. Boast not of Christ’s work for you, unless you can show us the Spirit’s work in you.
~J.C. Ryle
Sanctification is not to be understood here as a separation from ordinary use or consecration to some special use, although this meaning is often present in Scripture, sometimes referring to outward and sometimes to inward or effectual separation.
~William Ames
Saving faith is an immediate relation to Christ, accepting, receiving, resting upon Him alone, for justification, sanctification, and eternal life by virtue of God’s grace.
~Charles Spurgeon

Sanctification is not regeneration.
~Matthew Simpson


Humiliation is the beginning of sanctification.
~John Donne


The starting point of sanctification is the filthiness, corruption, or stain of sin.
~William Ames


Sanctification is the real change in man from the sordidness of sin to the purity of God’s image.
~William Ames


[I’m digging this Willie Ames guy, I just saved his theology book on amazon]


Sanctification sucks.

~the Home Engineer

[but I do know why I go thru it, and I do know why I need it]

From the Holy Word, click on blue links to see the full context of the passages:

Ro 6:19 – [In Context|Read Chapter|Original Greek] I am speaking in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness, resulting in {further} lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness, resulting in sanctification.

 Ro 6:22 – [In Context|Read Chapter|Original Greek] But now having been freed from sin and enslaved to God, you derive your benefit, resulting in sanctification, and the outcome, eternal life.

 1Co 1:30 – [In Context|Read Chapter|Original Greek] But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption,  

1Th 4:3 – [In Context|Read Chapter|Original Greek] For this is the will of God, your sanctification; {that is,} that you abstain from sexual immorality;  1Th 4:4 – [In Context|Read Chapter|Original Greek] that each of you know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor,

 1Th 4:7 – [In Context|Read Chapter|Original Greek] For God has not called us for the purpose of impurity, but in sanctification.  

2Th 2:13 – [In Context|Read Chapter|Original Greek] But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth.

 Heb 12:14 – [In Context|Read Chapter|Original Greek]

Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord.  



Musings on…. Leviticus 19. Again.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
‘You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD.GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Never slash your body to mourn the dead, and never get a tattoo. I am the LORD.

King James Bible
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.

American King James Version
You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks on you: I am the LORD.

American Standard Version
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am Jehovah.

Bible in Basic English
You may not make cuts in your flesh in respect for the dead, or have marks printed on your bodies: I am the Lord.

Douay-Rheims Bible
You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh, for the dead, neither shall you make in yourselves any figures or marks: I am the Lord.

Darby Bible Translation
And cuttings for a dead person shall ye not make in your flesh, nor put any tattoo writing upon you: I am Jehovah.

English Revised Version
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.

Webster’s Bible Translation
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.

World English Bible
“‘You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you. I am Yahweh.

Young’s Literal Translation
And a cutting for the soul ye do not put in your flesh; and a writing, a cross-mark, ye do not put on you; I am Jehovah.

Geneva Study BibleYe shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any {l} marks upon you: I am the LORD.

(l) By whipping your bodies or burning marks in them.

Wesley’s Notes

19:28 Cuttings in your flesh – Which the Gentiles commonly did both in the worship of their idols, and in their solemn mournings, Jer 16:6.

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

28. Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead-The practice of making deep gashes on the face and arms and legs, in time of bereavement, was universal among the heathen, and it was deemed a becoming mark of respect for the dead, as well as a sort of propitiatory offering to the deities who presided over death and the grave. The Jews learned this custom in Egypt, and though weaned from it, relapsed in a later and degenerate age into this old superstition (Isa 15:2; Jer 16:6; 41:5).

nor print any marks upon you-by tattooing, imprinting figures of flowers, leaves, stars, and other fanciful devices on various parts of their person. The impression was made sometimes by means of a hot iron, sometimes by ink or paint, as is done by the Arab females of the present day and the different castes of the Hindus. It is probable that a strong propensity to adopt such marks in honor of some idol gave occasion to the prohibition in this verse; and they were wisely forbidden, for they were signs of apostasy; and, when once made, they were insuperable obstacles to a return. (See allusions to the practice, Isa 44:5; Re 13:17; 14:1).

Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary

19:1-37 laws. – There are some ceremonial precepts in this chapter, but most of these precepts are binding on us, for they are explanations of the ten commandments. It is required that Israel be a holy people, because the God of Israel is a holy God, ver. 2. To teach real separation from the world and the flesh, and entire devotedness to God. This is now the law of Christ; may the Lord bring every thought within us into obedience to it! Children are to be obedient to their parents, ver. 3.

The fear here required includes inward reverence and esteem, outward respect and obedience, care to please them and to make them easy. God only is to be worshipped, ver. 4. Turn not from the true God to false ones, from the God who will make you holy and happy, to those that will deceive you, and make you for ever miserable. Turn not your eyes to them, much less your heart. They should leave the gleanings of their harvest and vintage for the poor, ver. 9.

Works of piety must be always attended with works of charity, according to our ability. We must not be covetous, griping, and greedy of every thing we can lay claim to, nor insist upon our right in all things. We are to be honest and true in all our dealings, ver. 11.

Whatever we have in the world, we must see that we get it honestly, for we cannot be truly rich, or long rich, with that which is not so. Reverence to the sacred name of God must be shown, ver. 12. We must not detain what belongs to another, particularly the wages of the hireling, ver. 13.

We must be tender of the credit and safety of those that cannot help themselves, ver. 14. Do no hurt to any, because they are unwilling or unable to avenge themselves. We ought to take heed of doing any thing which may occasion our weak brother to fall. The fear of God should keep us from doing wrong things, though they will not expose us to men’s anger. Judges, and all in authority, are commanded to give judgment without partiality, ver. 15. To be a tale-bearer, and to sow discord among neighbours, is as bad an office as a man can put himself into. We are to rebuke our neighbour in love, ver. 17.

Rather rebuke him than hate him, for an injury done to thyself. We incur guilt by not reproving; it is hating our brother. We should say, I will do him the kindness to tell him of his faults. We are to put off all malice, and to put on brotherly love, ver. 18. We often wrong ourselves, but we soon forgive ourselves those wrongs, and they do not at all lessen our love to ourselves; in like manner we should love our neighbour. We must in many cases deny ourselves for the good of our neighbour.

Ver. 31: For Christians to have their fortunes told, to use spells and charms, or the like, is a sad affront to God. They must be grossly ignorant who ask, What harm is there in these things? Here is a charge to young people to show respect to the aged, ver. 32. Religion teaches good manners, and obliges us to honour those to whom honour is due. A charge was given to the Israelites to be very tender of strangers, ver. 33.

Strangers, and the widows and fatherless, are God’s particular care. It is at our peril, if we do them any wrong. Strangers shall be welcome to God’s grace; we should do what we can to recommend religion to them. Justice in weights and measures is commanded, ver. 35. We must make conscience of obeying God’s precepts. We are not to pick and choose our duty, but must aim at standing complete in all the will of God. And the nearer our lives and tempers are to the precepts of God’s law, the happier shall we be, and the happier shall we make all around us, and the better shall we adorn the gospel.

I still love this site so very much: here


1 Thess. 5:16


So I found this from here, and liked how the page was set up with parallel versions and then commentary at the bottom.

International Standard Version (©2008)
Always be joyful.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Rejoice always;

GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Always be joyful.

King James Bible
Rejoice evermore.

American King James Version
Rejoice ever more.

American Standard Version
Rejoice always;

Bible in Basic English
Have joy at all times.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Always rejoice.

Darby Bible Translation
rejoice always;

English Revised Version
Rejoice alway;

Webster’s Bible Translation
Rejoice evermore.

Weymouth New Testament
Be always joyful.

World English Bible
Rejoice always.

Young’s Literal Translation
always rejoice ye;

Geneva Study Bible
{11} Rejoice evermore.

(11) A quiet and appeased mind is nourished with continual prayers, giving regard to the will of God.

People’s New Testament

5:16 Rejoice evermore. Religion is not sullen and sour, but full of joy; so full that the saint can even be joyous when all the world seems to frown. He has a hidden source of joy, a present Savior, a blessed hope.

Wesley’s Notes

5:16 Rejoice evermore – In uninterrupted happiness in God. Pray without ceasing – Which is the fruit of always rejoicing in the Lord. In everything give thanks – Which is the fruit of both the former. This is Christian perfection. Farther than this we cannot go; and we need not stop short of it. Our Lord has purchased joy, as well as righteousness, for us. It is the very design of the gospel that, being saved from guilt, we should be happy in the love of Christ. Prayer may be said to be the breath of our spiritual life. He that lives cannot possibly cease breathing. So much as we really enjoy of the presence of God, so much prayer and praise do we offer up without ceasing; else our rejoicing is but delusion. Thanksgiving is inseparable from true prayer: it is almost essentially connected with it. He that always prays is ever giving praise, whether in ease or pain, both for prosperity and for the greatest adversity. He blesses God for all things, looks on them as coming from him, and receives them only for his sake; not choosing nor refusing, liking nor disliking, anything, but only as it is agreeable or disagreeable to his perfect will.

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

16, 17. In order to “rejoice evermore,” we must “pray without ceasing” (1Th 5:17). He who is wont to thank God for all things as happening for the best, will have continuous joy [Theophylact]. Eph 6:18; Php 4:4, 6, “Rejoice in the Lord . by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving”; Ro 14:17, “in the Holy Ghost”; Ro 12:12, “in hope”; Ac 5:41, “in being counted worthy to suffer shame for Christ’s name”; Jas 1:2, in falling “into divers temptations.”

Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary

5:16-22 We are to rejoice in creature-comforts, as if we rejoiced not, and must not expect to live many years, and rejoice in them all; but if we do rejoice in God, we may do that evermore. A truly religious life is a life of constant joy. And we should rejoice more, if we prayed more. Prayer will help forward all lawful business, and every good work. If we pray without ceasing, we shall not want matter for thanksgiving in every thing. We shall see cause to give thanks for sparing and preventing, for common and uncommon, past and present, temporal and spiritual mercies. Not only for prosperous and pleasing, but also for afflicting providences, for chastisements and corrections; for God designs all for our good, though we at present see not how they tend to it. Quench not the Spirit. Christians are said to be baptized with the Holy Ghost and with fire. He worketh as fire, by enlightening, enlivening, and purifying the souls of men. As fire is put out by taking away fuel, and as it is quenched by pouring water, or putting a great deal of earth upon it; so we must be careful not to quench the Holy Spirit, by indulging carnal lusts and affections, minding only earthly things. Believers often hinder their growth in grace, by not giving themselves up to the spiritual affections raised in their hearts by the Holy Spirit. By prophesyings, here understand the preaching of the word, the interpreting and applying the Scriptures. We must not despise preaching, though it is plain, and we are told no more than what we knew before. We must search the Scriptures. And proving all things must be to hold fast that which is good. We should abstain from sin, and whatever looks like sin, leads to it, and borders upon it. He who is not shy of the appearances of sin, who shuns not the occasions of it, and who avoids not the temptations and approaches to it, will not long keep from doing sin.

Enjoy! The Home Engineer

And The Beat Goes On………..


Well, not much new over here on the homestead. We are still learning 10th grade from the boys bedroom/classroom.

Animals still alive, hubby still working. Facebook is taking up lots of time here. I’m slowly but surely working my way through a bible study on the book of Proverbs.


I don’t have the energy to make long posts [so I guess I’m keeping my resolution to create shorter ones!]

But I still see scripture that pops out at me:

32 “You shall stand up before the gray head and honor the face of an old man, and you shall fear your God: I am the Lord. Leviticus 19.


 Proverbs 20:1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler,
and whoever is led astray by it is not wise. 

It is an honor for a man to keep aloof from strife,
but every fool will be quarreling.
The purpose in a man’s heart is like deep water,
but a man of understanding will draw it out.
Many a man proclaims his own steadfast love,
but a faithful man who can find?
The righteous who walks in his integrity—
blessed are his children after him!

Who can say, “I have made my heart pure;
I am clean from my sin”?
11 Even a child makes himself known by his acts,
by whether his conduct is pure and upright.
12 The hearing ear and the seeing eye,
the Lord has made them both.
13 Love not sleep, lest you come to poverty;
open your eyes, and you will have plenty of bread.
15 There is gold and abundance of costly stones,
but the lips of knowledge are a precious jewel.

17 Bread gained by deceit is sweet to a man,
but afterward his mouth will be full of gravel.

19 Whoever goes about slandering reveals secrets;
therefore do not associate with a simple babbler. 
20 If one curses his father or his mother,
his lamp will be put out in utter darkness.

22 Do not say, “I will repay evil”;
wait for the Lord, and he will deliver you.

24 A man’s steps are from the Lord;
how then can man understand his way?
25 It is a snare to say rashly, “It is holy,”
and to reflect only after making vows.

27 The spirit of man is the lamp of the Lord,
searching all his innermost parts.

29 The glory of young men is their strength,
but the splendor of old men is their gray hair.
30 Blows that wound cleanse away evil;
strokes make clean the innermost parts.




Romans 5:1-5

Dear Father, giver of your Holy Spirit,

Thank you for justifying me through faith, so that now I have peace with you through the Lord Jesus Christ.

How grateful I am that I have access to your grace! I rejoice in the hope of sharing in your glory.

More than that, my God, I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake.
I know that suffering produces endurance, endurance produces character, and character produces hope.

How I bless you for this wonderful hope that I have. It is a hope that will never bring disappointment.

I know this because I have tasted your love. You have poured it into my heart through the Holy Spirit which you have given me, as well as to all your people.

By the authority of Christ and in his name I pray. Amen.

Musings on Proverbs 30: Part 2


Two things I ask of you;
deny them not to me before I die:
Remove far from me falsehood and lying;
give me neither poverty nor riches;
feed me with the food that is needful for me,
lest I be full and deny you
and say, “Who is the Lord?”
or lest I be poor and steal
and profane the name of my God.

10 Do not slander a servant to his master,
lest he curse you, and you be held guilty.

11 There are those who curse their fathers
and do not bless their mothers.
12 There are those who are clean in their own eyes
but are not washed of their filth.
13 There are those—how lofty are their eyes,
how high their eyelids lift!
14 There are those whose teeth are swords,
whose fangs are knives,
to devour the poor from off the earth,
the needy from among mankind.

There are 2 things he asks of God:

1. Remove him far from falsehood and lying

2. Give him neither poverty or riches. actually there are 3

3. feed me with just the food that he needs.


Lest he be full and deny the Lord or be poor and steal and profane the name of his God.

We don’t ask this of God much, do we?

Who are the ‘those’ who curse their parents and clean their outsides but are filthy and proud and vicious.

Ah, we have all been there one time or another in our lives, eh?

Pray these verses…..7-9.More to come… Blessings



Musings on … Homo~Phobia


So,  time to do a controversial post…

As I scan thru the ‘religion’ tag here on WordPress, I see some titles proclaiming Rick Warren is ‘homophobic’.

Now, I do not know much about Rick Warren or his faith or his theology. I’m waiting until after I post this to check it out.

But as usual, my keen sense of either being nosy or striving for knowledge leads me to look up the word (s) to figure it out…

Here goes… [forgive the bold, I’m just trying to differentiate from the definitions]

Phobia:  pho·bi·a
(fō’bē-ə) Pronunciation Key
n. A persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear of a specific thing or situation that compels one to avoid it, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous.

A strong fear, dislike, or aversion.
[From -phobia.]
phobia :
1786, “fear, horror, aversion,” Mod.L., abstracted from compounds in -phobia, from Gk. -phobia, from phobos “fear,” originally “flight” (still the only sense in Homer), but it became the common word for “fear” via the notion of “panic, fright” (cf. phobein “put to flight, frighten”), from PIE base *bhegw- “to run” (cf. Lith. begu “to flee,” O.C.S. begu “flight,” bezati “to flee, run,” O.N. bekkr “a stream”). Psychological sense attested by 1895; phobic (adj.) is from 1897.


someone who practices homosexuality; having a sexual attraction to persons of the same sex [syn: homosexual]
any living or extinct member of the family Hominidae characterized by superior intelligence, articulate speech, and erect carriage

Homo [(hoh-moh)]

The genus to which human beings belong. The genus Homo includes Neanderthals and other hominids closely related to today’s humans, such as Homo erectus.


 ho⋅mo⋅pho⋅bi⋅a  /ˌhoʊməˈfoʊbiə/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [hoh-muh-foh-bee-uh] Show IPA Pronunciation  

-noun unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.
1955-60; homo(sexual) + -phobia

ho·mo·pho·bi·a (hō’mə-fō’bē-ə) Pronunciation Key
Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.
Behavior based on such a feeling.

[homo(sexual) + -phobia.]
ho’mo·phobe’ n., ho’mo·pho’bic adj.

homophobic: adjective
prejudiced against homosexual people

looking at these words, I take from it… someone who has fear, antipathy [a natural or habitual aversion], contempt or prejudiced toward homosexuals.

Side-note: antipathy

an⋅tip⋅a⋅thy, -noun, plural -thies. 1. a natural, basic, or habitual repugnance; aversion.
2. an instinctive contrariety or opposition in feeling.
3. an object of natural aversion or habitual dislike.
1595-1605; < L antipathīa < Gk antipátheia. See anti-, -pathy Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.

an·tip·a·thy (ān-tĭp’ə-thē) n. pl. an·tip·a·thies

A strong feeling of aversion or repugnance. See Synonyms at enmity.
An object of aversion.

[Latin antipathīa, from Greek antipatheia, from antipathēs, of opposite feelings : anti-, anti- + pathos, feeling; see pathos.]

antipathy:1601, from L. antipathia, from Gk. antipatheia, noun of state from antipathes “opposed in feeling,” from anti- “against” + root of pathos “feeling” (see pathos).


I’m already at 500 words and I promised shorter posts!

Not quite sure how to word this…. if R.W. believes the bible is divinely inspired and believes what God has said thru those writings, does that equal homophobia?

If he believes that God has stated homosexuality is a sin, then he would believe ALSO that homosexuality is a sin and treat it as such?

Does that make him homophobic?

As a christian he should not be prejudiced or filled with contempt or even fear homosexuals… but should he feel [natural] aversion and repugnance [habitual dislike]  to the sin of homosexuality?

Let’s stick to the questions and be nice… I will delete any mean or nasty comments.

I’m off to look up why R.W. is labeled the way he is…I will update when I find something…


UPDATE: I found lots of peoples comments on a few statements RW has said.

This one in particular over at Belief Net.

From all the stuff I read I don’t see RW being homophobic. But again, its just my opinion, just like everyone elses opinion about a man they have never met.