Salvation; Who is in Control of It? Part 1


Alright I have a biggie here and I have laid it out in 3 posts.

Let me preface this with: I’m a mother and a parent. I’m a wife and I study the bible. I’m a ‘Calvinist’ and I believe God is sovereign. Over All.

I’m neither a brilliant mind nor a scholar of a foreign language or even of the bible. I am a theologian. Everyone is a theologian if one strives to discern the bible.

Go here to see what a Calvinist believes. (Particularly the T.U.L.I.P. and the Life is Religion part of the article.) And something I typed up a few years ago for someone.

This post started as an e-mail to a long time friend. She had stated her family had been going to the same church for a long time and it was the only one she could get her hubby to attend. She is having struggles with her 16 year old who doesn’t believe in God and church. She also mentioned a problem with the pastor. Well, I immediately got into ‘sticking my nose into someone else business before they ask’ mode and told her to run, not walk to another church if she is not getting fed the Word.

Mind you, I have no idea what the problem was with the pastor, I just told her that. I also told her she was not in control of her hubbys’ or her sons’ salvation. That she herself was only in charge of herself getting the Word fed to her by something, good sermons, bible studies, being in the Word, etc.

What I failed to mention is God is in control of her hubby and sons salvation and even her own.

Those of you who read this and are parents, especially mothers, know we are in charge of our kids, we desire for them to do good, be good and walk the ways of the Lord, we pray for them, we cry for them, we cheer them on. Am I right?

We, especially as women, struggle with our childrens or hubbys lack of ‘fire for Lord’ so to speak. We can get into nagging about them attending bible studies, opening their bible even, or not wanting to attend church service or the local mission project. (What, I can’t be the only one?!?!?)

We want them NOT to make the same mistakes we did (esp. if we were not ‘Christians’ our whole lives)

We want them fully sanctified before they go out on their own in the big bad world.

But are we fully sanctified? Nope.

One example:

A friend has 3 boys all in different stages of rebellion right now, all grew up in the church, knowing the true knowledge of the Lord. 1 came back to the faith, 1 is way out there, 1 is just getting his feet wet in the world and testing the waters. She cries, she prays, she begs, she, after 3 boys, has comes to terms with God being in control of their lives. Does she like it? Not often.

 Resigning to the fact that the people you love the most aren’t called by God is a hard thing. No one wants to admit that, no one even really knows that until the number of that person days are over. Does she want those boys to die without coming back to God? No.

Let’s go back to God.

God, before the beginning of time, knew/knows each of us and before we were a whisper in our parents’ bedroom, choose us to be His. Or not. This is called Unconditional election.

“The doctrine of unconditional election asserts that God’s choice from eternity of those whom he will bring to himself is not based on foreseen virtue, merit, or faith in those people. Rather, it is unconditionally grounded in God’s mercy alone.” from here

God decided before even knowing if WE would accept Him, choose us. Or not.

Meaning, God did not look into the future and see that Kristina would accept His son as her Lord and Savior, and then say, well, dang, since she decided to come around I will just choose her now as one of My own. That would place the control with me. Thus making God less than sovereign.

This is unconditional election.

God choose the time, the place, the hour to make us His. That is called irresistible grace. (Check the articles I linked to)

We are unable to choose God (without the Holy Spirit placing it upon our hearts first); we are sinful at birth, due to Adams transgression in the garden. This is called Total Depravity.

The doctrine of total depravity (also called “total inability”) asserts that, as a consequence of the fall of humanity into sin, every person born into the world is enslaved to the service of sin. People are not by nature inclined to love God with their whole heart, mind, or strength, but rather all are inclined to serve their own interests over those of their neighbor and to reject the rule of God. Thus, all people by their own faculties are morally unable to choose to follow God and be saved because they are unwilling to do so out of the necessity of their own natures. (The term “total” in this context refers to sin affecting every part of a person, not that every person is as evil as possible.) From the same link as above.

~Continued on part 2

 and Part 3


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  3. I wanted to comment on the husbands and kids not being on fire for the Lord part.

    I think most Christian churches are geared toward women. They take on the feminine characteristics of Christ and preach those to the utter boredom of the kids and men in the congregation.

    Look around at the older folks of any denomination and you’ll find that there are a bunch of blue haired women whose husbands have long ago decided to stay home on Sunday morning.

    Those same women will also tell you that none of their kids attend church anymore and that they pray for them each day to come back to the fold.

    I like what Bill Gaither said; something like; If you build a fire warm enough, everyone will be drawn to it. We are blessed in our church to have youth leaders who for the most part get it. They sacrifice each week to build that fire warm enough and are doing a great job because the youth room is overflowing each week.

    This is the last weekend of a park ministry that they do each summer where they get out their “rock” instruments and jam out for the locals; followed by a skit and sermon by one of the kids. What is cool is that many of these kids wouldn’t even be in the youth group if it weren’t for the fact that they were needed to play their instrument.

    And that is what it is all about isn’t it? Finding out what talents you have and using them to God’s glory. Now getting the husbands involved is a story for another time.

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