Musings on……..Unclean Foods and Abel’s Sacrifice

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First Question

 Do you think the sacrifice of Abel was received by God {and Cains was not}because

A. Abel’s sacrifice was of animal and blood {Cain’s was was fruit from the ground}

or

B. Abel’s sacrifice was good because his heart was in the right place {and Cain’s heart was not ‘right’ with God}?

*Scripture below

Genesis 4: Cain and Abel

    1 Adam lay with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, “With the help of the LORD I have brought forth a man.” 2 Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.
      Now Abel kept flocks, and Cain worked the soil. 3 In the course of time Cain brought some of the fruits of the soil as an offering to the LORD. 4 But Abel brought fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock. The LORD looked with favor on Abel and his offering, 5 but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast.

    6 Then the LORD said to Cain, “Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? 7 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must master it.”

Second Question

Do you think the the vision Peter had in the new testament about the animals comin gdown in a sheet and now everything that was unclean is now clea pertains to:

A. Eating the physical animal?

or

B. Gentiles being grafted into the family of God?

*scripture below

Acts 10: Peter’s Vision

    9About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. 10He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. 13Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.”

    14“Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”

    15The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”

    16This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.

 Peter at Cornelius’ House

    27Talking with him, Peter went inside and found a large gathering of people. 28He said to them: “You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with a Gentile or visit him. But God has shown me that I should not call any man impure or unclean. 29So when I was sent for, I came without raising any objection. May I ask why you sent for me?”

    34Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism 35but accepts men from every nation who fear him and do what is right. 36You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, telling the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all. 37You know what has happened throughout Judea, beginning in Galilee after the baptism that John preached— 38how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.

Clean animals (from here)

Animals That Chew the Cud and Part the Hoof

Antelope
Bison (buffalo)
Caribou
Cattle (beef, veal)
Deer (venison)
Elk
Gazelle
Giraffe
Goat
Hart
Ibex
Moose
Ox
Reindeer
Sheep (lamb, mutton)

Fish With Fins and Scales

Anchovy
Barracuda
Bass
Black pomfret (or monchong)
Bluefish
Bluegill
Carp
Cod
Crappie
Drum
Flounder
Grouper
Grunt
Haddock
Hake
Halibut
Hardhead
Herring (or alewife)
Kingfish
Mackerel
Mahimahi (or dorado, dolphinfish[not to be confused with the mammal dolphin])

Minnow
Mullet
Perch (or bream)
Pike (or pickerel or jack)
Pollack (or pollock or Boston bluefish)
Rockfish
Salmon
Sardine (or pilchard)
Shad
Silver hake (or whiting)
Smelt (or frost fish or ice fish)
Snapper (or ebu, jobfish, lehi, onaga, opakapaka or uku)
Sole
Steelhead
Sucker
Sunfish
Tarpon
Trout (or weakfish)
Tuna (or ahi, aku, albacore, bonito
or tombo)
Whitefish
Birds With Clean Characteristics Chicken
Dove
Duck
Goose
Grouse
Guinea fowl
Partridge
Peafowl
Pheasant
Pigeon
Prairie chicken
Ptarmigan
Quail
Sagehen
Sparrow (and other songbirds)
Swan*
Teal
Turkey

Insects

Types of locusts that may include crickets and grasshoppers

Unclean Animals

Animals With Unclean
Characteristics

Swine

Boar
Peccary
Pig (hog, bacon, ham, lard, pork, most sausage and pepperoni)

Canines

Coyote
Dog
Fox
Hyena
Jackal
Wolf

Felines

Cat
Cheetah
Leopard
Lion
Panther
Tiger

Equines

Ass
Donkey
Horse
Mule
Onager
Zebra (quagga)

Other

Armadillo
Badger
Bear
Beaver
Camel
Elephant
Gorilla

Groundhog
Hare
Hippopotamus
Kangaroo
Llama (alpaca, vicuña)
Mole
Monkey
Mouse
Muskrat
Opossum
Porcupine
Rabbit
Raccoon
Rat
Rhinoceros
Skunk
Slug
Snail (escargot)
Squirrel
Wallaby
Weasel
Wolverine
Worm
All insects except some in the locust
family

Marine Animals Without Scales and Fins Fish

Bullhead
Catfish
Eel
European Turbot
Marlin
Paddlefish
Sculpin
Shark
Stickleback
Squid
Sturgeon (includes most caviar)
Swordfish

Shellfish

Abalone
Clam
Crab
Crayfish
Lobster
Mussel
Prawn
Oyster
Scallop
Shrimp

Soft body

Cuttlefish
Jellyfish
Limpet
Octopus
Squid (calamari)

Sea mammals

Dolphin
Otter
Porpoise
Seal
Walrus
Whale

Birds of Prey, Scavengers and Others

Albatross
Bat
Bittern
Buzzard
Condor
Coot
Cormorant
Crane
Crow
Cuckoo
Eagle
Flamingo

Grebe
Grosbeak
Gull
Hawk
Heron
Kite
Lapwing
Loon
Magpie
Osprey
Ostrich
Owl
Parrot
Pelican
Penguin
Plover
Rail
Raven
Roadrunner
Sandpiper
Seagull
Stork
Swallow
Swift
Vulture
Water hen
Woodpecker

Reptiles

Alligator
Caiman
Crocodile
Lizard
Snake
Turtle

Amphibians

Blindworm
Frog
Newt
Salamander
Toad

I’m thinking there is somewhere else in the NT that’s talks about unclean and clean foods and how that has all changed, but it escapes me right now, if you have the scripture, please comment.

If it hasn’t changed, are we just talking about law VS grace here with the food?

Can we put unclean/clean food on par with the other ‘rituals’ we do that were established in the old test.   set apart sunday unto the Lord, communion or passover, chastity,  etc?

Questions, keeps your brain from dying….

Blessings, Kristina

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5 responses »

  1. Perhaps you were thinking of Colossians 2:16-17?

    [i]16Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. 17These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.[/i]

    Or Acts 15:19-20

    [i]19Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, 20but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood.[/i]

    Also Galatians 2:11-14

    [i]11But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12For before certain men came from James, he was eating with the Gentiles; but when they came he drew back and separated himself, fearing the circumcision party. 13And the rest of the Jews acted hypocritically along with him, so that even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy. 14But when I saw that their conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all, “If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you force the Gentiles to live like Jews?”[/i]

    Kind of a long comment, but there’s no harm in reading a bunch of Scripture, right? Anyhow I think the NT is pretty clear that the prohibition of foods, like circumcision, is a part of the ceremonial law fulfilled in Christ, and thus no longer required.

  2. the acts 15, is about this:
    15:20 That they abstain. Four items are mentioned, which are all embraced in the apostolic letter as things forbidden. They were four common customs of the Gentile world, and matters on which there should be a clear understanding.
    From the pollutions of idols. The first does not mean only to refrain from worshiping idols, or eating meat offered in idol sacrifice, but from all the pollutions of the system of idolatry. Licentiousness and drunkenness received a sanction from religion. See Lecky’s European Morals, chap. V. and Conybeare and Howson’s Paul, chap. IV.
    [From] fornication. Chastity was the exception instead of the rule among Gentiles at this period.
    [From] things strangled. Because in strangling the blood was retained in the flesh.
    [From] blood. The use of blood was prohibited by the Mosaic law (Le 17:14 De 12:16,23), and for wise reasons this prohibition was extended to Gentiles. The Roman epicures were wont to drown fowls in wine and then use the flesh. It was a common thing to drink wine mingled with blood. The only way to strike at these savage practices was to prohibit its use.

    not unclean VS clean.
    the colossians 2 verses:
    From Matthew henry,
    The setting apart a portion of our time for the worship and service of God, is a moral and unchangeable duty, but had no necessary dependence upon the seventh day of the week, the sabbath of the Jews. The first day of the week, or the Lord’s day, is the time kept holy by Christians, in remembrance of Christ’s resurrection. All the Jewish rites were shadows of gospel blessings.

    not unlclean VS clean food, but ceremonies, which in assuming that could include unclean foods.
    from Galatians verses:
    matthew henry says, 2:11-14 Notwithstanding Peter’s character, yet, when Paul saw him acting so as to hurt the truth of the gospel and the peace of the church, he was not afraid to reprove him. When he saw that Peter and the others did not live up to that principle which the gospel taught, and which they professed, namely, That by the death of Christ the partition wall between Jew and Gentile was taken down, and the observance of the law of Moses was no longer in force; as Peter’s offence was public, he publicly reproved him. There is a very great difference between the prudence of St. Paul, who bore with, and used for a time, the ceremonies of the law as not sinful, and the timid conduct of St. Peter, who, by withdrawing from the Gentiles, led others to think that these ceremonies were necessary.
    again, i think it was ceremony or eating with the unclean gentiles that was the issue.
    while i think i’m being way too literal, because i dont actually get a verse that states, the old test rule of not eating unclean animals is now null and void. then i am trying to see where it states that, im assuming, again, that there is a general consensus that states old test ways are null and void, where do we draw the line, is the 10 commandments null and void, what about cermonies, feasts, passover, and if the old test stuff isnt null and void, why are we not still celebrating all those old feasts, and letting slaves off and the land rest of the 7th year, etc.
    just something to think about, i guess.

  3. Well, I think it is a good an necessary inference (that’s the Presbyterian in me speaking) from a variety of Scriptures.
    The Westminster Confession of Faith, not that you necessarily hold to it, says in Chapter 19 section 3 –

    III. Besides this law, commonly called moral, God was pleased to give to the people of Israel, as a Church under age, ceremonial laws, containing several typical ordinances, partly of worship, prefiguring Christ, his graces, actions, sufferings, and benefits; and partly holding forth divers instructions of moral duties. All which ceremonial laws are now abrogated under the New Testament.

    I think there are enough points throughout Scripture that speak to the discontinuation of the ceremonial law (unless you were thinking that clean/unclean foods was a matter of morality) without specifically naming every single one of those laws – that would be a big book.

    Or, you could become a 7th Day Baptist…

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