Daily Archives: March 27, 2007

Heretic, Theretice, Everywhere a tic tic

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(I know I already used that heading with the puking cat, but hey, if it works!)

Since Agathos said something about the Pastor Scotts being a heretic, I decided to look it up.

It coincides nicely with the apologetics class I’m attending this week.

From Dictionary.com

her·e·tic /n. Pronunciation Key – Spelled Pronunciation[n. her-i-tik; adj. her-i-tik, huh-ret-ik] Pronunciation Key – IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a professed believer who maintains religious opinions contrary to those accepted by his or her church or rejects doctrines prescribed by that church.
2. Roman Catholic Church. a baptized Roman Catholic who willfully and persistently rejects any article of faith.
3. anyone who does not conform to an established attitude, doctrine, or principle.

I guess I would like to have a list of ‘essential doctrines’ to glean from.

Orthodoxy vs. Heresy here

In Christianity, the term orthodoxy refers to “The body of essential biblical teachings. Those who embrace them should be accepted as Christians.” (Note 2)

The opposite of orthodoxy is heresy, “[d]octrine which is erroneous in such a way that Christians must divide themselves as a church from all who teach or accept it; those adhering to heresy are assumed to be lost, although Christians are unable to make definitive judgments on this matter.” (Note 3)

Individuals who – while claiming to be Christians – reject one of more central doctrines of the Christian faith are considered heretics.

Groups which reject one of more essential doctrines while claiming to represent Christianity, are considered – theologically – cults of Christianity (Note the difference between theological and sociological definitions of the term ‘cult.’)

It seems that if someone doesn’t conform to an established attitude or doctrine than they should just go to another one.

But, now, as I’m thinking about it, back in the day, there wasn’t another doctrine to go to, it WAS the one and only Catholic church.

I guess we americans just don’t fully understand the gravity of heresy from the early chuch standpoint. We’re free to worship whomever we please.

From religioustolerance.com

Heresy: beliefs that are forbidden by the policy-deciding body of a faith group. Heresy is a relative term, because one group’s heresy is frequently another group’s required belief or dogma, and vice-versa. Consider, for example, the criteria for salvation as taught by three Christian groups: the Roman Catholic Church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons), and Fundamentalist protestants. One group’s required belief may also be the same group’s condemned past heresy (and vice-versa). Heresies are inevitable in religion because there does not appear to be any mechanism by which religious disagreements can be resolved — either through reason or by assessing the will of God.
Heresiologist: An individual who studies heresies.
Heresiology: The study of heresies.
Heretic: a person who believes in one or more heresies.

So basically, I’m a mormon heretic and a catholic heretic?

Because I don’t believe in their man-made doctrines?

From Medievalwriting

heretic : person who has expressed formal denial or doubt of any defined doctrine of the church

but this would be the catholic church, correct?

I knew the www.newadvent.org would have tons to say about it, but its too long to include here.

Strong’s Number: 141 aiºretiko/v
Original Word Word Origin
aiºretiko/v from the same as (140)
Parts of Speech TDNT
Adjective 1:184,27
Definition
1. fitted or able to take or choose a thing
2. schismatic, factious, a follower of a false doctrine
3. heretic

The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia
HERETIC; HERETICAL

her’-e-tik, her’-e-tik, he-ret’-i-kal (hairetikos):

Used in Titus 3:10, must be interpreted according to the sense in which Paul employs the word “heresy” (1 Corinthians 11:19; Galatians 5:20) for “parties” or “factions.” According to this, the Scriptural meaning of the word is no more than “a factious man” (American Standard Revised Version), an agitator who creates divisions and makes parties. Weizsacker translates it into German ein Sektierer, “a sectarist.” The nature of the offense is described in other words in 2 Thessalonians 2:6,11.

Titus 3:10 – Reject a factious man after a first and second warning,
Book of 1 Corinthians
Chapter 11:19 –
For there must also be factions among you, so that those who are approved may become evident among you.

Book of Galatians
Chapter 5:20 –
idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,

Book of 2 Thessalonians
Chapter 2:6 – And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed.
2:11 -For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.

From Britannica

Doctrine rejected as false by religious authorities. In Christianity, the orthodox theology of the church is thought to be based on divine revelation, and heretics are viewed as perversely rejecting the guidance of the church.Numerous Christian heresies appeared from the 2nd century onwards. Early heresies included Arianism, the Monophysite heresy, Pelagianism, and Donatism. Some heresies, such as Montanism, expressed faith in a new prophet who added to the body of Christian revelation.Some types of Gnosticism were heretical branches of Christianity. The major means of combating heretics in the early church was excommunication. In the 12th – 13th century, the Inquisition was established to combat heresy, and heretics who refused to recant were often executed.In the 16th century the Protestant Reformation brought an end to the doctrinal unity of Western Christendom, and the concept of heresy became less important in the various Christian churches, though it continues to exist. The concept of heresy also exists in Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Islam.

Encyclopedia

heresy, in religion, especially in Christianity, beliefs or views held by a member of a church that contradict its orthodoxy, or core doctrines.

It is distinguished from apostasy , which is a complete abandonment of faith that makes the apostate a deserter, or former member.

Heresy is also distinguished from schism , which is a splitting of or from the church brought about by disputes over hierarchy or discipline, rather than over matters of doctrine.

So what is it if a church body splits because of doctrine?

The heretic considers himself or herself not only a church member but, in a doctrinal controversy, the true believer; indeed, some persons originally labeled heretical were rehabilitated after once abhorred views become accepted.
The battle for doctrinal control of Christianity began with the declarations of St. Paul in the New Testament. In the religion’s first three centuries, numerous sects, many arising from Gnosticism, were in conflict. The first Council of Nicaea (A.D. 325), which addressed the challenge of Arianism, was among convocations at which a Christian orthodoxy was established.

Excommunication was the usual method of dealing with heretical individuals or small groups. The medieval church undertook military action (as against the Albigenses, in 1208) and extensive legal and punitive campaigns (such as the Inquisition) in striving to suppress large-scale heresy.

The Protestant Reformation created new churches that at first campaigned against heresy from their own doctrinal bases; over time, however, the Roman Catholic church has remained the only Christian body that has continued with any frequency, on the basis of canon law, to prosecute heretics.

So, still today, the catholic church will prosecute heretics?

 Also, the thing with Calvin helping to indict a heretic see here probably needs to be re-looked at. I would need some more info. on that.

And last but not least, and too long to put on here,

Marcion: Portrait of a Heretic

So, to sum things up here;

Wow, don’t know how to sum things up. Another word that meant something in the past.

A word that has lost its meaning in the Unitied States where the freedom to believer whatever god they fancy.

A word that is just a matter of opinion. To Agathos, the pastor Scott’s are heretics, to the people who believe the same things as them, they are not heretics.

I am a heretic to the Catholic church, and quite glad of it.

Please, comments, pertaining to post content, of course. You know who you are! 🙂

Blessings, Kristina

(see scripture above)

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